Italy fines Meta €805M over photo privacy

(rapporteur.com)

84 points | by jruohonen 1 hour ago

13 comments

  • wafflemaker 6 minutes ago
    I only give Facebook Messenger access to photos that I need to share. Not more, because I don't trust them not to abuse our relationship and misuse anything they can put their hands on, including photos and documents I don't mean to share.

    Am I wrong and paranoid? Maybe, but it's not my fault that that's my perception of big tech. It's their own actions.

    And that an average Joe doesn't realize how much access to his private life he gives them? Looks like somebody decided that these predatory tactics are not cool and even people not in the know should be protected.

  • jbird99 1 minute ago
    Fining big tech is just easy money these days, they would rather pay it ans move on than deal with litigation.
  • dahdum 23 minutes ago
    > According to Italy’s regulator, Facebook requested access to the gallery via a single authorisation valid for the entire app, preceded by a generic notice requesting enabling of other features, which did not allow users to understand that they were also authorising suggestions from their gallery.

    This sounds so benign to me.

    • bix6 11 minutes ago
      Meta ripping your entire personal library to slam you with manipulative ads? Doesn’t sound benign to me.
      • snakeboy 8 minutes ago
        Yeah, I think normal people will accept the app permission to their gallery in order to send a photo. It seems reasonable to be able to opt-in to this very basic functionality of a messaging app without also implicitly consenting to FB training ML models on your entire library.
      • r_lee 1 minute ago
        sounds like actual malware behavior
    • richwater 19 minutes ago
      It is, because EU countries just use Big Tech fines as a piggy bank.
      • my-huge-pony 14 minutes ago
        I wish, but unfortunately EU countries don't fine Big Tech enough and Big Tech just keeps breaking the law, treating the fines as normal cost of operation. Meta in particular is just profiteering on crime (phishing/fake ads) at this point, there are many leaked internal documents about it.

        Not sure about this particular case.

        • lithos 11 minutes ago
          Predators go where the prey is, and Facebook book has seriously aged out. So makes sense FB would profit off of what they have left.
      • lostlogin 9 minutes ago
        You don’t see anything big tech does to be concerning?
      • thefz 9 minutes ago
        You can give away for free your whole life if you want. But there are rules in EU to protect its citizens.
      • cromka 6 minutes ago
        Can you even show any reliable article that would entertain this notion?
  • Poudlardo 21 minutes ago
    Do they ever pay those fines?
  • hn_throwaway_99 3 minutes ago
    I know there will be lots of back and forth about whether or not Meta deserves this fine. But the broader question I have is whether there are regulators anywhere that allow companies to pre-register their products and get a "compliance certification" beforehand.

    That is, there are obviously lots of gray areas in regulations. I would be less sympathetic to the view that these aren't just cash grabs by governments if these governments provided a service to say whether a particular product in a current form was compliant. This is essentially what the FDA does with drugs, why not with other consumer products?

  • zkmon 13 minutes ago
    EU member states won't hesitate to milk the tech cows of the silicon valley. I feel good about it. The data-hungry social apps with addition forced by algorithm, unleashed by the mega tech on the world, should be countered.
    • matsz 9 minutes ago
      While I'm unhappy about lots of the regulation coming from the EU lately; this is one of the things that has the potential to actually make the world a better place.
  • victorbuilds 22 minutes ago
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  • davidw 24 minutes ago
    Now I'm imagining something like "When I copy and pasted that text from my uncle Gigi that said that Facebook was not authorized to use my content, they didn't respect that!"
  • ReDress 1 minute ago
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  • irishcoffee 18 minutes ago
    Italy needed some scratch so they gave Facebook a parking ticket. Man this is fucking stupid.
    • matsz 12 minutes ago
      Are you saying Meta doesn't deserve those fines?
      • irishcoffee 8 minutes ago
        I’m saying they don’t give a flying fuck about the amount, and Italy doesn’t give a flying fuck about anything Facebook does, they just wanted some money to pay off the mob or something. Italy is about as globally relevant at Ghana, which is to say not at all.
        • Erem 2 minutes ago
          It beggars believe that meta or any tech company wouldn't care about near a billion dollar financial loss.
        • cromka 5 minutes ago
          Wow, you're definitely very emotional about this subject.
  • roscas 53 minutes ago
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    • Muhammad523 40 minutes ago
      Is 805 million euros such a small amount for him?
      • nalekberov 23 minutes ago
        It sure is not, but compared to an Average Joe’s wallet, it’s a drop in a bucket for him. At the end of the day this price is the cost they are paying for doing business in free mode.
    • jstummbillig 31 minutes ago
      What is this financially illiterate nonsense? It's a fine that is certainly high enough that it incentives change (you don't want a repeat €805m fine on your balance sheet) and presumably that is what we care about. Because we are adults, and it's not about vengeance. It's about pushing people to do the right thing. Right?

      Right...?

      • nalekberov 19 minutes ago
        Wrong! These fines for them are just cost of doing business.

        You might naively believe that these fines would move the needle, but nothing is going to change unless these billionaires a. Are blocked from doing business unless they act appropriately or b. Go into jail

      • CaptWorld 13 minutes ago
        Adults? I sincerely doubt there are any left. The people are financially illiterate so they elect leaders who behave the same way.
  • CaptWorld 41 minutes ago
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    • gradus_ad 40 minutes ago
      The Europoor slur has done more damage to the European self conception than anything since WWII
    • qubex 29 minutes ago
      To be frank as an Italian I’m quite content that our government acts in our best interests.
      • huhtenberg 23 minutes ago
        Psst... don't feed the trolls. Just flag and move on.
      • CaptWorld 19 minutes ago
        Ofc you are. And that's fine. We can own nothing and be happy too. Don't you know?/s