Align AI and Mathematics–To Something Else

(liorpachter.wordpress.com)

21 points | by nitrogenpuddle 2 hours ago

3 comments

  • stbede 8 minutes ago
    I think the later is misguided. So what if the AI labs are misaligned to math? - But they announced a result before a paper was peer reviewed! The horror! So what? The mathematics community can read the paper once it is written up. - But their results they publish may not care about conceptual understanding and insight! So what? If that's the mathematics community's goal, then they should sift through the lean proof and reformat the ideas to make them more insightful and develop their own conceptual understanding. - But they aren't bothering to do literature review to tell the history about how humans contributed to the final result! So what? If it's so important to the mathematical community, they can do that themselves and throw a party every Tuesday in the honor of Luis Martínez-Zoroa and wear jeans on casual Friday in honor of Buckmaster and Alpöge - the left leg for Buckmaster and the right for Alpöge.

    An AI giving a definite result of an open problem doesn't decrease the mathematical community's insight or conceptual understanding. They are still free to continue doing their work and pursuing their goals. If it's really so bad, they can just pretend they don't know NS is solved and keep spending their efforts trying to prove it never blows up (or a hand full of them can try to blow it up from scratch).

    Guess what! I spend no part of my life working on unsolved math problems. I read some books for pleasure. I work in a hospitable with sick kids. I help my wife raise our kids. My goals are misaligned with the mathematics community! I've done nothing to increase conceptual understanding and insight! So what?

  • andai 23 minutes ago
    I've heard this idea before, that civilization itself is already a misaligned intelligence, and that AI will merely amplify the existing tendencies.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCSsKV5F4xc

  • andrepd 1 hour ago
    How in god's name—irrespective of how valid this is, and its very valid—is this even remotely germane to the issue of AI in mathematics? Rattling off incidents and making the case that there is discrimination and sexists in mathematics (yeah no shit), how is this related to the issue of AI that was raised in the letter? Are the complaints raised in that letter any less valid because the mathematicians who signed them make part of a community which has reproachable behaviour, both past and present? I really don't get it.
    • thorum 47 minutes ago
      Why does it have to be about that? The author says they agree with the letter in the first paragraph.
    • rramadass 19 minutes ago
      You are right.

      This just reads like a rancorous rant for gaining publicity.

    • warkdarrior 26 minutes ago
      The letter claims that AI is destroying the mathematics community as is now. The blog asks whether the mathematics community as is now is worth saving.