I use excalidraw to manage my diagrams for my blog

(blog.lysk.tech)

147 points | by mlysk 6 hours ago

20 comments

  • 1a527dd5 1 hour ago
    Huge fan of https://github.com/mermaid-js/mermaid, not the prettiest things but enough to scratch the itch.
    • mlysk 1 hour ago
      Author here: I use mermaid lot as well and for some things like process flows, and to model interactions it it outrules excalidraw and posts will follow where i need exactly that. but to visualize things high level i find excalidraw way nicer.
  • Jnr 4 hours ago
    Cool, I did a similar thing last week.

    I made a custom Payload CMS block that allows to create and update excalidraw diagrams within the CMS. It supports dark and light mode switching and rendering inline or as external SVG.

    And last weekend I added MCP server with Oauth so I could generate and update those diagrams and add them to post drafts from Claude. I think it is more convenient since I don't have to use API billing model and don't need to build a custom UI.

    Here is an example post: https://www.janhouse.lv/blog/network/self-hosting-tailscale-...

    Originally I wanted to sync posts from Obsidian but it doesn't have good enough image handling which I sometimes need and I needed extra metadata to unlist or password protect or noindex some posts.

  • lnenad 4 hours ago
    I love diagramming, but I genuinely don't understand how people can use these wonky looking tools. It looks off, I had to make my own[1] to create something that's easy to use and looks good/normal.

    [1] https://grafly.io

    • beAbU 0 minutes ago
      The best way to drive adoption to your product is to not shit on someone else's labour of love. Just a little pro-tip.
    • emaro 3 hours ago
      I like the wonky, hand-drawn looking style. I think it fits well beause usually if I use a diagram it's not 100% precise and accurate, but more a high-level illustration. The wonky style conveys the approximate precision of the presented concept.

      Also, and that's personal, I think it's cute.

      • boomskats 1 hour ago
        I agree with you. I think the 'wonky' comment was more to serve as justification for the plug than an actual criticism of Excalidraw.

        Excalidraw is my favourite thinking tool, and the style it produces is just the right level of limiting, disarming, and professional at the same time.

        • lnenad 1 hour ago
          It's not, I genuinely find it harder to read diagrams. And also the plug is very relevant, I wanted to share, it's not a saas it's a free tool.
      • lnenad 1 hour ago
        I agree 100% it's personal, wasn't trying to imply anything else, but for me the style takes away from the actual content and makes it harder to read/grasp.
      • grosswait 2 hours ago
        I thought they were saying the tool is wonky looking, but <shrug>?
      • SatvikBeri 20 minutes ago
        One person's bug is another's feature.
    • count 58 minutes ago
      Excalidraw has a 1 click 'sloppiness' change. We do drafts and ideation in 'full sloppy' mode, to indicate to the reader that this is not fully thought through, or a final documented decision. Once we've gotten through discussions and analysis, the final diagram is changed to be 'not sloppy', and the font changed from handwriting to a san serif font.

      It's pretty effective to immediately communicate to folks that 'this is a concept' approach. Too many people instantly jump to conclusions about diagrams - if it's written down it must be done / fixed / formal.

    • aniviacat 2 hours ago
      In Excalidraw, you can reduce (and completely remove) the "sloppiness" in the element properties.
    • geektips 1 hour ago
      This looks really clean, nice work. I’ve had the same issues with most diagramming tools, it's either not so good looking or the insane pricing .

      I went a different route using diagram-as-code with Mermaid instead of manual drawing.

      [1] https://graphlet.xyz

      • lnenad 1 hour ago
        Thanks! I love Mermaid as well, I made it so you can import Mermaid diagrams as well.
    • dominotw 10 minutes ago
    • antback 21 minutes ago
      I prefer excalidraw …
    • atentaten 1 hour ago
      When a background shape is in focus it comes to the foreground covering the shapes that are on top of it.
      • lnenad 51 minutes ago
        That is by design. If you deselect it it goes back to it's layer.
    • Ygg2 3 hours ago
      > It looks off

      Depends on what you want to achieve with your look. Do you want to scream professionalism, authority, and completed? Use a regular UML tool.

      Want to say this is a rough draft of a few ideas? Then using UML is probably THE wrong look. And Exaclidraw should be used instead.

      --- Anecdote time. According to one of my professors, they showed how the prototype will look in action, and the customers were so impressed by the smoke and mirrors prototype they wanted to start using it right away.

      In the end, customer walked away because they thought they were being strung along to pay for something that was already done.

    • superkai 4 hours ago
      looks awesome man !
  • walthamstow 5 hours ago
    Excalidraw has proliferated quite widely in my company since we got Claude Code. Its a shame the default font is ugly, childish and inaccessible.
    • lloydatkinson 3 hours ago
      Whiteboard handwriting is childish?
      • walthamstow 2 hours ago
        It's not on a whiteboard, nor was it written by hand. It's a computer font.
        • lloydatkinson 2 hours ago
          The Excalidraw website describes itself as: Excalidraw is a virtual collaborative whiteboard tool that lets you easily sketch diagrams that have a hand-drawn feel to them.

          And the GitHub repo says: An open source virtual hand-drawn style whiteboard. Collaborative and end-to-end encrypted.

          It's the intended design...

          • walthamstow 2 hours ago
            Cool. I have stated my opinions on their intended design.
  • jannesblobel 2 hours ago
    That fits perfectly with the idea that everything should actually be in the repository. At last, I no longer have to update the images myself. Thanks!
    • mlysk 1 hour ago
      Thanks for the flowers
  • agnishom 2 hours ago
    I want to write a blog whose posts will be all about the technical details of how the blog works.
    • mlysk 1 hour ago
      Author here: Haha - yeah that is kind of meta - i know. Other content will be more about the acutual problems i solve. Check out https://blog.lysk.tech/sqlite-on-git-prologue ;-)
      • quanta-rs 16 minutes ago
        Hey, I found that interesting and went looking for an RSS feed link on your site but couldn't find any. Assuming you don't have it already, do you plan to add it?
  • shrivats25 1 hour ago
    I have noticed diagrams are most useful early in thinking, but once things get complex they either become outdated or too hard to maintain. Curious how people here deal with that, do you keep diagrams in sync with code, or treat them as disposable?
    • al_borland 39 minutes ago
      I find I end up needing to walk the code to make diagrams of the current state anytime management wants to know what’s going on. It’s the only way my managers seem to understand or accept anything.

      It’s a lot of work, as starting over is often easier than reviews and edits. Usually the diagrams are slightly out of date, but good enough to satisfy whoever is looking at it.

      I wish I had a better solution. Now I’m wondering I could write something that walks the code for me.

    • Normal_gaussian 1 hour ago
      My approach:

      Do use diagrams to explain an abstraction, and attach a word to it. Don't use diagrams to represent the exact state of a system.

  • irl_zebra 45 minutes ago
    Love Excalidraw. Used it for decades now, but reach for more powerful tools pretty often as I hit its limits. I'm not asking for the world, but some basics like being able to bold or italicize text would help out a lot.
  • dewey 5 hours ago
    Everyone does that these days and they are becoming AI tells like the em-dash or the blue-glow of the early AI generated images that everyone added to their blog posts.
    • hhh 4 hours ago
      AI can generate mermaid diagrams, not excalidraw. If you use the mermaid to excalidraw, i guess it can be, but it just looks like a mermaid diagram then and not an excalidraw.
  • wdroz 5 hours ago
    You can also bootstrap your initial schema with LLMs with the excalidraw MCP "app" [0]. But MCP "apps"[1] are quite new and not very well supported yet.

    [0] -- https://github.com/excalidraw/excalidraw-mcp

    [1] -- https://modelcontextprotocol.io/extensions/apps/overview

    • mi_lk 5 hours ago
      I didn't have good experience with excalidraw-mcp when it first came out a month ago; the Claude-generated diagrams were too raw/unpolished. I'm sticking to mermaid for now but I'm interested in hearing how people make exclidraw-mcp work for them
  • darshanmakwana 5 hours ago
    I simply just draw in excalidraw and take a ss and past it in my obsidian note, I have a setup that automatically parses posts from my vault and then pushes them to my site
    • count 55 minutes ago
      Protip: select the items in the canvas you want in your SS and 'copy to clipboard as PNG' instead of a screen shot and you can get transparent PNGs of diagrams or of detailed subsets of a larger diagram easily.
    • elric 5 hours ago
      I use the Obsidian Excalidraw plugin, means I can add diagrams to notes without leaving Obsidian.
  • alunchbox 43 minutes ago
    YES YES YES! Excalidraw is amazing, I recently embedded it into my vibe coded project to add version control integration with it. Honestly one of highest quality tools I've used for my workflow, does what it needs to do and doesn't get in your way.
  • palijer 3 hours ago
    Great article, should make sure to attribute xkcd comics though.

    https://xkcd.com/about/

    • mlysk 1 hour ago
      Thanks for the hint - just updated the post and adde the attribution
  • gethly 6 hours ago
    Same. I started using it for Gethly blog. It's not perfect, some things make me crazy but overall it is better than draw.io that I used to use before. Excalidraw also has these great styles that just feel right :)
  • subhobroto 2 hours ago
    Documentation often rots away because it's often decoupled from the code it describes.

    I'm a huge fan of anything related to code that can I check into git, track its evolution and the thinking that went behind it. Why was Kubernetes chosen? Why was NATs chosen? Why are the topics named the way they are?

    I am a huge fan of mermaid diagrams because it lets me check in my diagrams into git. I am a huge fan of mermaid diagrams because my code can generate diagrams that I (or they) can check into git - and this was before AI.

    Now that AI can generate mermaid diagrams, people look at my Git repos and go "oh, you use AI a lot!" - then I point to my git history and they see it's from 2018.

    I'm really happy that mermaid and related tools like Excalidraw are taking off - we have another chance at documentation being automated, uptodate and "fresh".

  • emil-lp 6 hours ago
    Should be Show HN.

    Now it reads like an ad for some extension to a program I've never heard about.

    • emil-lp 6 hours ago
      Apparently Excalidraw is An open source virtual hand-drawn style whiteboard. Collaborative and end-to-end encrypted.

      https://github.com/excalidraw/excalidraw

      • petepete 5 hours ago
        I use Excalidraw extensively at work. For me, it's really close to perfection.

        It has an excellent UI, selections work way better than Lucid or Figma etc, the sketchy look makes it clear designs are rough and not blueprints, it's private and loads instantly.

        The one negative is that it's a pain to get the multiplayer self-hosted version running.

        • macintux 28 minutes ago
          The company where I'm contracted retired Excalidraw in favor of Lucid and, while I understand that big companies are going to go with big, enterprise-y solutions, what went from a weekly "sketch something out to help with communicating my ideas" turned into "once every few months I begrudgingly document something".

          Excalidraw is excellent for low-friction sketches.

        • fabbbbb 5 hours ago
          I was surprised about that, too. Tried a bit but found very few sources online.

          A self-hosted version with storage (multiplayer) plus any Claude access would be a killer setup for team planning etc and let us drop Miro.

        • ndezt 4 hours ago
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      • bryanhogan 5 hours ago
        Both Excalidraw and TLDraw are the two most popular apps of their kind, simplistic whiteboard tools, so I don't think it's that surprising and I don't see any reason why this post should be a "Show HN".

        TLDraw: https://www.tldraw.com/

        Excalidraw: https://excalidraw.com/

        • jruohonen 5 hours ago
          For me, draw.io is still the winner, and especially now that it runs locally also on Linux. As for works in progress, I hope this one succeeds (and would also run locally at some point):

          TikzMaker: https://tikzmaker.com/

      • postatic 5 hours ago
        I love excalidraw, but don't need the excalidraw+. But Excalidraw open source is the frontend only, which means I have to delete my drawings each time. So I built the backend so I can create many canvases.

        https://drawx.ossy.dev

        • iCutMoon 3 hours ago
          I actually created a completely free chrome extension exactly for that reason helps you to save and open the files at excalidraw

          https://github.com/AykutSarac/excalihub

        • jstanley 5 hours ago
          Your site makes me make an account before I can use it, whereas excalidraw.com doesn't, and also excalidraw.com seems to save my drawing just fine? I closed a tab and reopened it and my drawing was still there, presumably from localStorage.

          The three-lines-menu also has a "Save to..." option that lets you create a sharable link or save to your local disk.

          • blahlabs 4 hours ago
            You can also embed the excalidraw drawing in the exported image. So you can drag/drop the exorted image back into excalidraw and edit it later.
    • mlysk 3 hours ago
      Pretty new to hn, thanks for the hint
  • d4rkp4ttern 2 hours ago
    Another option I use open is to ask the code-agent to make a diagram using Tikz (as a .tex file), which can then be converted to pdf/png.

    But in general AI-diagramming is still unsolved; needs several iterations to get rid of wonky/wrong arrows, misplaced boxes, misplaced text etc.

    • jillesvangurp 1 hour ago
      I've always liked umlet and umletino (web version) for a nice mix of drag and drop and edit by text editor. In the absence of good enough layout algorithms, the ability to manually drag things to the right place is kind of essential. The resulting diagrams are not so pretty of course.

      I have tried a lot of tools in this space. If it comes out looking alright, that's usually because it was so simple that it didn't actually need a diagram. Anything with a bit of non trivial structure seems to quickly escalate with essentially no good options other then esoteric hacks with styling to make it look any good.

      This seems to be a thing where you can have pretty automated layouts, complex diagrams, or correct diagrams and can only have two out of three.

      Which means that almost 100% of my use cases for these tools never really work for me unless I sit down and grab some old school drawing tool (or just give up on the whole notion, which is much more likely). If it was trivial, I wouldn't bother making a diagram. These tools seem only usable for stuff where diagrams were overkill to begin with. I saw no examples on the linked article (and the rest of the site; I browsed the top few recent articles) to really counter this.

  • tobiu 2 hours ago
    nice one!
  • johspaeth 2 hours ago
    Uh, that’s a nice approach.
  • tom1337890 8 minutes ago
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    • rykuno 2 minutes ago
      Brand new account minutes ago and first post advertising. Awesome.